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The Truth About Modern Art - YouTube

There's a fair amount of (British) swearing. This guy says everything I've felt during every visit to the modern art wing at the museum, and every lesson on modern art I've ever had.

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  • ahnyerkeester

    ahnyerkeester 3 years, 2 months ago

    I had this very discussion a few weeks ago. I visited the Hammer Museum in LA and abhorred the modern art exhibit. Eventually I found an "exhibit" that included two couches, classical music and three projectors displaying the most inane conversations. The couches, however, were comfortable and the music good so I could just ignore the rest.

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  • MarkBlemish

    MarkBlemish 3 years, 2 months ago

    I think there's another side to this that I'd like to hear (that isn't pure bullshit) but yeah, for the most part I agree.

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    • ahnyerkeester

      ahnyerkeester 3 years, 2 months ago

      The discussion I had that I'd mentioned above talked of the invention of photography being a challenge but I didn't buy it then. The video above made a good case against it I think.

      The idea was that painting had gotten so refined, so perfect that there was a need for artist to express themselves in other ways. The Impressionists were just a step away but those who came after them took more steps and now we have vomit art and black squares hanging on walls.

      This past weekend on NPR they interviewed the man who wrote the music for Downton Abby. He said that he preferred electronic music and they played a piece of his modern opera that sounded like no one had the same sheet music. It struck me then that his modern opera was written to impress other musicians. It wasn't intended for public consumption. His electronic music is where he connects with the public and his Downton themes are where he makes his money.

      Maybe that's how modern art in general is. The artists create to impress each other, the art snobs act like they understand and enjoy in but we lot are still enjoying more traditional creations. We don't have to understand or appreciate it all. Like what you like, don't bother with the rest.

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      • wake

        wake 3 years, 2 months ago

        Yes, the modern influence on music and writing galls me as well. I hosted a classical music radio show for 18 months, and I knew I was safe to play just about anything up to, and including, the Classical period. But once I got into the Romantic era, I definitely had to know whether it was listenable or not. While there is a wealth of wonderful music to be played, we then have creations like John Cage's "Four Minutes Thirty-Three Seconds" (which is completely silent).

        While we may like what we like, I'd prefer not to be thought of as a clod or buffoon when I say my 4-yr-old could do a better job.

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        • ahnyerkeester

          ahnyerkeester 3 years, 2 months ago

          There are good modern composers as well. I love Vaughn Williams and Aaron Copeland and Gustav Holst. Even more modern like Arvo Pärt are good, though minimalist. It isn't all Cage's stuff and noise like the crash of the truck carrying the musical instruments. Like you did, you have to take care and listen discriminately.

          And the art snob response is "Yes, but your 4 year-old didn't and Snooty Underpants did. That's why he's a genius."

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